Iglesias advised Díaz to weave a core of loyalty by being “crucial” on the left: “She is the best to lead UP”

He relates in his new book that Sánchez told him about the ‘Dina case’: “They are going for you”


The former vice president and former leader of Podemos Pablo Iglesias reaffirms that the second vice president, Yolanda Díaz, is the best person to lead United We Can and details that, in conversations after his departure from politics, he advised him that more important than approving the labor reform or not in the desired terms, it was to surround oneself with a “confidence nucleus”. And it is that he proclaims that “loyalty is a crucial element to do politics from the left.”

On the other hand, he recounts regarding the so-called ‘Dina’ piece that the President of the Government, Pedro Sánchez, told him in a meeting ‘They are going for you’ before the turn of the instruction took place in which his condition was questioned of harmed.

This is how he transfers it in the book ‘Truths to the face. Memories of the Wild Years’, published by Navona and edited by the journalist Aitor Riveiro, in which he narrates his experience and trajectory in active politics.

In one of the passages, Iglesias recounts that several times he was able to leave the first political line and that in the summer of 2016 there was a “window of opportunity” to leave, after the first electoral repetition.

“I would have bet on Íñigo (Errejón) if he had had a different political relationship with me. If I had felt the loyalty of someone who says: ‘I don’t agree with you on a lot of things, but as long as you are the secretary general, I will to defend yourself tooth and nail.’ But he did the opposite and that led to the horror of Vistalegre 2 and the subsequent split”, he exposes regarding the internal conflict that marked the party. And it is that in the face of this “challenge” from the “colleagues that he was facing” he understood that “the fight had to be given”.

Moreover, he assures that at that time, “without making an advantageous review” of the past, he would have opted for Errejón because at that time he was the “best option”, as he has done in the case of the second vice president, Yolanda Díaz, who has a leadership other than yours.

Of the vice president, he says that, for many, she is more like the former mayor of Madrid Manuela Carmena, with a “critical speech regarding the parties.” “And yet, we don’t hesitate to bet on her,” he reels to add that Carmena’s problem “was not so much her ideas” but her “lack of loyalty” to Podemos.


Later, on January 26, 2019, the former vice president confesses that together with the current Minister of Equality, Irene Montero, they had made the decision to resign from all their positions and leave politics when, a few days before, Errejón and Carmena announced “by surprise” his split and create a new party in the Madrid elections, just when he was on full paternity leave.

“The situation was very difficult (…) We deserved a slightly more bearable life, without so much pressure and without the permanent bitterness of betrayals and internal struggles. The decision was made,” he points out to specify that he then received a call from the parliamentary spokesman, Pablo Echenique, to offer himself as a candidate when they were without candidates, a gesture that moved both of them and made them reconsider.

The former vice president assures that in the summer of 2020 it was already clear that there should be a replacement in United We Can and the conviction that Díaz was the best option. The decision was activated when he decided to be a candidate in the 4M, a position that Montero also offered himself and was proposed to the head of Consumption, Alberto Garzón.

In the conversations in which he finished making the decision to be a candidate in Madrid, he reveals that Díaz did not participate, because “for it to go well, I knew that I could not tell him.” “In fact, if he had told him he wouldn’t have let me do it,” he muses.

“He was aware (Díaz) that it was his turn, but he did not want to. Luckily everything happened as I thought it would happen. It took a while to get used to the idea, but today it is clear that Yolanda is radiant as vice president and leader of the space (. ..), he comments to also praise that Minister Ione Belarra is consolidated at the head of Podemos.

In this way, it claims that the decision to enter into a coalition government with the PSOE, instead of settling for a programmatic agreement without being part of the Executive, given that otherwise “Yolanda Díaz would not exist now as a leader with great electoral expectations “.

“That is recognized today by all my colleagues who, at the time, would have accepted an agreement with the PSOE that would leave us out of the Government,” the former vice president deepens.


On the other hand, the former vice president also explains that the chief executive and his former chief of staff Iván Redondo asked him for a meeting to discuss a “judicial issue”, when the turn of the investigation in the piece of the Villarejo case had not yet taken place. regarding the mobile card of former adviser Dina Bousselham.

In that meeting, Iglesias assures that the chief executive was “clear” and released him ‘We are going to defend you, but you know that they are going for you’,’ without knowing how he obtained that information. “That the President of the Government calls you to meet with him and that he tells you that, has the significance of him”, he confesses to add the conversation “it touched him”.

Another day and during a meal, Iglesias asserts that Sánchez told him that he should meet “some important judges” since, from the meeting in person, the image they had of him could change.

“I told him that I would be delighted. Although that meeting with any of the judges that he was supposed to know never took place, it was clear that the president had assumed that they would come for me and that, perhaps, if they introduced us, they would see that I was not so terrible I believe that the president was telling me the truth and that he was acting in good faith. Of course, if it is analyzed from the perspective of the separation of powers that exists in this country, it is tremendous,” he stresses.

Then he states that the magistrate of the National High Court, Manuel García Castellón, removed the condition of injured party and began to direct investigations against him to turn it into a case “against Pablo Iglesias”.

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